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Well, I salvaged from my workplace a few old 133MHz or so 386 based touchscreen automation control panels. Chief said that normally we don't give them but just keep your mouth shut and take them away as "boxes". I thought to someday install Aros on it. Already reverse engineered the serial port protocol for the panel... :) They have a solid die cast aluminium cases and a lcd/tft panel with touchscreen on them and also over a "button" overlay.
Posted on: 2015/8/13 20:01
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I'll wish you luck with the G4. Actually I originally went with MorphOS (3.9), but just afterwards found out the hilariously overpriced (and restrictive!) licenses and the dev/publisher not even responding to emails and went nope.png and moved on to *nix :) Quote:
Oooh, that's a shame. I really hate it when people throw away perfectly working stuff (unless it's *real* old, like throwing working 386/486 boxes away in 2015 :P). I always try to either recycle or give it a way to somewhere it goes into use. I get most of my stuff from my friend who brings them from his workplace where they've been "thrown out" (meaning "here, do something with this or we'll throw it away.") Quote:
Oh, I've thought about installing OpenIndiana also, but never really got to it. I hadn't even heard of DragonFly before.. but then again, I've never been really familiar with BSD at all (more of a Mac/Linux guy). Not to be nasty to anyone, but I'm not really surprised you had trouble installing OpenIndiana :) As it's based on Solaris that was .. eh, infamously .. hard to install on x86/desktop systems. I remember having a shouting contest ("install you d*ckhead!") with Solaris 8/9(?) a few times in the past. I think I've actually got it to install *once* on x86 hardware. What I *really* like to get to work, is eComStation. I loved OS/2 Warp back in the day, and would like to try what it's like in the current iteration. But eComStation is commercial software with a steep price tag and in beta to top it off. I don't understand asking a price from beta software, but eh, it seems to be the current "trend" among publishers. (I'm looking at ya, game publishers!)
Posted on: 2015/8/13 5:33
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It's funny you mentioned the PowerMac. I just found a G4 Quicksilver on the street a few days ago. Unfortunately it doesn't power on but if I fix it up I'll be installing MorphOS to check it out.
Actually two of my three monitors came from the street too, as did my AROS and Haiku boxes. That's where I do most of my shopping :). It's a shame I can't send you a monitor as I see plenty of good ones that get thrown out. The multi-OS box isn't running anything terribly esoteric at the moment. Just some flavours of Linux, and PC-BSD. I tried to install OpenIndiana and DrangonFly on it recently but both failed for various reasons. Next up may be Minix 3 :)
Posted on: 2015/8/12 4:12
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That's a very good solution and one I really contemplated going with, but unfortunately my selection of monitors didn't include ones with that many inputs. Most of my hardware is old/ancient/dinosaurian, and at least second- if not third- or fifth- hand :)
So I could only locate a few VGA-only monitors, one VGA+DVI combo and then my "main" screens with DVI+HDMI, HDMI+DP and HDMI. And with most of them, the changing between inputs is a pain in the royal bleep. I'm currently using the VGA+DVI one with my "testing" systems, since it has a nice standard 1280x1024 native resolution that is available with almost any VESA driver out there. (The "better" ones are 1920x1080 which none of the VESA drivers support, unfortunately) And yeah, that "time problem" seems to be a constant thorn on our sides... Technically there's 24 hours in one day, but I'll be damned if I can use 4 of them in any given day :D Mind if I ask you, what are you currently storing in that "multi-boot monster" of yours? :) My current "project" is (or was, it's pretty much stable at the moment) to get an old PowerMac G4 (Dual-1Ghz, "Quicksilver 2002") to a working state with anything more current than the 10.x/9.1 that was installed on it. (For those who care: I went with Lubuntu 14.04.2 LTS, and while it is working now, it wasn't a walk in the park to get it to install... ) But it's nice to see that even a ~13 year old machine can still be useful and run a somewhat-current OS and applications that support current standards.
Posted on: 2015/8/11 17:32
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Hello and greetings from another relative newbie. It seems we share a few hobbies, and the KVM problem!
My VGA + PS/2 KVM worked fairly well but I always came across glitches, the keyboard would stop working, keys would stick etc. The modern digital ones are too pricey for my "needs". My current solution is a simple 4-port mechanical USB switch for the keyboard and mouse, in combination with multiple inputs on the monitors. If you're not changing between PCs every few seconds then it works really well. No glitches, and the box only cost maybe $6 delivered. Kyb + mouse -> USB hub (in monitor) -> 4-port USB switch -> PCs. My current setup: - Linux Mint main PC - FreeBSD file and web server (ZFS rocks!) - Multi-boot multi-OS monster - AROS "NG Amiga" with unfortunate Win 7 HD included. - Haiku box that won't fit under the desk. I'm trying to get back into software development so I can help with AROS, but there is always that time problem..
Posted on: 2015/8/8 1:41
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Unfortunately I didn't have any optical PS/2 mice anymore, and I will not suffer the non-optical mice ever again :D There's been TOO many times cleaning the mouse balls :P Quote:
At least with HDMI/DVI that seems to be the case. The VGA+USB ones werent that much. I ordered a 4-port VGA+USB one from eBay last night for 9.00? Not bad if you ask me. But then again, I'll bet some good money that those who designed the cheaper (and almost all, to be fair) models have NEVER, EVER had to plug them in. I mean the design of these things are so so stupid my old broken left-foot boot would design it better. There's no way in a million years to place those in any way so that the cables would be neatly organized and not in the way AND you'd have access to the button that changes between computers. Why, of WHY put the VGA (for the monitor) on the same side as the peripherals? Or why put the computer connections on EVERY side? It would be SO simple to just put the console peripherals (1-3 USB connectors) and the selector (knob, buttons(s), whatever) beside the ports and have the console monitor and all computer connectors on the back. Then you could have in on the table and neatly just connect your input perhipherals to the box and have the selector there and at the same time you could organize the monitor/computer cables behind/under the desk to be out of the way. Sorry for the rant, but I spent an hour looking through eBay to find a single nicely designed KVM, but nope, there aren't any, unless you go to the 16+ port professional route. Or 2 port HDMI, but in both cases the price is upwards from 80?, at least.
Posted on: 2015/8/4 8:29
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But then again, maybe you shouldn't have got rid of those PS/2 mice either ![]() I use a cheap PS/2 to USB adapter to plug one computer that doesn't have PS/2 into the KVM. Quote:
I suppose they're more expensive to make now with the requirement to switch digital video and USB. I got my 4-port VGA+PS/2 one for 17 GBP ten years ago.
Posted on: 2015/8/4 0:20
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That's a very good question, and one that unfortunately does not have a good answer. The long and short of it is: they cost a ton and I'm a dumbass :P I used to run two computers via a (Belkin?) KVM switch a couple of years ago. But this spring when I did cleaning I thought I'd get rid of the old thing since I've not used it for years. Then I threw it away (or more precisely, gave it away to a second hand thingy). Then just a bit afterwards I started again to assemble more systems and install more OSes and went... I'm an idiot. Then again, it was a VGA+PS/2 KVM, and I'm not sure if most systems support PS/2 hardware anymore. I sure as heck don't own any PS/2 mice anymore. So maybe I wasn't a complete arse when I got rid of it. Second point: they do cost a TON around here. (a simple two-machine VGA + USB one is $100+ in most stores.) I thought of ordering one from eBay just the other day, but I haven't yet. I think I'll search today a bit more. I'd *like* to find a 3+ computer one (that would do VGA/DVI + USB) and would be "manual" (like a knob or something, the "press numlock + number things *never* work reliably). I'd like to get a HDMI one but BOY where they NOT cheap, even from ebay.
Posted on: 2015/8/3 19:22
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Welcome AnttiV. Just something I'm curious about: why don't you use a KVM switch if you're short of space? I have five computers connected to one monitor through a combination of an analogue VGA switch and the monitor's multiple inputs.
Posted on: 2015/8/2 21:44
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