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Re: DataType Prefs
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What? No - it parses the datatype prefs files in envarc.

ah ok.

I thought this was about a preference program to allow end-user to manage datatype descriptors.

Nevermind, my bad.


Why would you want to play with the descriptors? you install them with the datatype and it does what it says on the tin - there's no reason you should be tinkering with the descriptors.

Hmz, how otherwise to add a new default icon for a new data-(read:file)-type ?

^^ that actually makes the workbench at least a bit usable for me.


you shouldn't have descriptors for formats you don't have datatypes for. Default icons and datatypes are 2 different things. Descriptors come with datatypes.

And to complete the circle: descriptors determine the default icon.

I never said that it is smart to use (especially not when you do not understand what you are doing, see also here).

I already expressed my wishes/improvements on that subject, but afaik i am using the descriptors exactly as they are intended.

It is in no way intended to hijack your bounty proposal, so i'm terribly sorry about all this off-topic crap. I truly misunderstood your proposal.

Posted on: 2016/1/30 2:20
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What? No - it parses the datatype prefs files in envarc.

ah ok.

I thought this was about a preference program to allow end-user to manage datatype descriptors.

Nevermind, my bad.


Why would you want to play with the descriptors? you install them with the datatype and it does what it says on the tin - there's no reason you should be tinkering with the descriptors.

Hmz, how otherwise to add a new default icon for a new data-(read:file)-type ?

^^ that actually makes the workbench at least a bit usable for me.


you shouldn't have descriptors for formats you don't have datatypes for. Default icons and datatypes are 2 different things. Descriptors come with datatypes.

Posted on: 2016/1/29 12:55
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I have a question that might be linked to these "datatype preferences".
Some of our datatypes allow saving, for example JPEG datatype.
For these JPEG images saving, the datatype has hard coded compression level.
1. It would be nice to be able to change this compression level by preference program
2. It would be even better that for some applications, the datatype would present a requester for the user to select a compression level (this would need to add a new option to be used by the application in order to open or not the requester)

I do not know if or how this is possible without breaking the compatibility with existing datatype library interface.

Compression level for JPEG is just an example, but it can be used for other attributes.

Posted on: 2016/1/29 8:01
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What? No - it parses the datatype prefs files in envarc.

ah ok.

I thought this was about a preference program to allow end-user to manage datatype descriptors.

Nevermind, my bad.


Why would you want to play with the descriptors? you install them with the datatype and it does what it says on the tin - there's no reason you should be tinkering with the descriptors.

Hmz, how otherwise to add a new default icon for a new data-(read:file)-type ?

^^ that actually makes the workbench at least a bit usable for me.

Posted on: 2016/1/28 17:11
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What? No - it parses the datatype prefs files in envarc.

ah ok.

I thought this was about a preference program to allow end-user to manage datatype descriptors.

Nevermind, my bad.


Why would you want to play with the descriptors? you install them with the datatype and it does what it says on the tin - there's no reason you should be tinkering with the descriptors.

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What? No - it parses the datatype prefs files in envarc.

ah ok.

I thought this was about a preference program to allow end-user to manage datatype descriptors.

Nevermind, my bad.

Posted on: 2016/1/27 23:58
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The STRINGS line tells us that the datatype has a catalog file called "datatype.catalog", and that FOO maps to string number 12 from it.
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Please forgive my ignorance, but i seem to be missing something here.

What/why the link with the catalog ? e.g. what functionality does this add/allow to a datatype ?


Erm, it allows the prefs application to display configuration options in the users language perhaps?

In that case, i don't get it :-S.

Program parses available datatypes in devs. Content of these files is static (e.g. available fields can vary, but are well defined).


What? No - it parses the datatype prefs files in envarc.

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Each 'field' has it's own value (or values), that need to be presented to the user. Additionally user might want to edit and/or save.

So, i still don't understand what a direct link between a datatype descriptor and a datatype specific catalog would add.

Wouldn't a single catalog suffice to translate for all available datatypes ?


How could a single catalog possibly know what "per-datatype" options might be present? Sorry but that's just ridiculous. Only a specific datatype implementation knows what the entries in its config template mean.

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The STRINGS line tells us that the datatype has a catalog file called "datatype.catalog", and that FOO maps to string number 12 from it.
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Please forgive my ignorance, but i seem to be missing something here.

What/why the link with the catalog ? e.g. what functionality does this add/allow to a datatype ?


Erm, it allows the prefs application to display configuration options in the users language perhaps?

In that case, i don't get it :-S.

Program parses available datatypes in devs. Content of these files is static (e.g. available fields can vary, but are well defined).

Each 'field' has it's own value (or values), that need to be presented to the user. Additionally user might want to edit and/or save.

So, i still don't understand what a direct link between a datatype descriptor and a datatype specific catalog would add.

Wouldn't a single catalog suffice to translate for all available datatypes ?

Posted on: 2016/1/27 23:21
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The STRINGS line tells us that the datatype has a catalog file called "datatype.catalog", and that FOO maps to string number 12 from it.
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Please forgive my ignorance, but i seem to be missing something here.

What/why the link with the catalog ? e.g. what functionality does this add/allow to a datatype ?


Erm, it allows the prefs application to display configuration options in the users language perhaps?

Posted on: 2016/1/27 22:49
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The STRINGS line tells us that the datatype has a catalog file called "datatype.catalog", and that FOO maps to string number 12 from it.
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Please forgive my ignorance, but i seem to be missing something here.

What/why the link with the catalog ? e.g. what functionality does this add/allow to a datatype ?

Posted on: 2016/1/27 22:00
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