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Re: The new x86 PC hardware will have aros firmware burned in
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Imagine if we could have a PC that did not have to post to BIOS and could just start booting into the AROS GUI as soon as the PC is powered up. Oh the old days...


AFAIK there are (where ?) some PCs that had a minimal Linux in their BIOS ...

Whats missing is a page describing 'How it is done'

Currently I fear modern UEFI systems, with all their requirements for certifies keys, as a thread for users that like to play around with alternative OSes.


That was done with coreboot.http://www.coreboot.org/Linux

Posted on: 2015/1/5 2:57
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Re: The new x86 PC hardware will have aros firmware burned in
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I will say it again. If such custom PC is done in such away it mimics Amiga classic 100%but for AROS (even mimic Amiga 500 color screen bootup) I wil buy the PC even if I don't need it. I will buy it in a heart beat because this will be my dream x86 Amiga machine in a heart beat.

To me this will kick X1000, SAM440ep so hard on the butt it is not even funny. I find that AROS is so close to Linux with easy program ports, and huge library support and cheap hardwre and with all the benefit of enjoying an AmigaOS. I find programming for AROS is 100 X easier than say AmigaOS 4.1.

Posted on: 2015/1/4 20:18
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Re: The new x86 PC hardware will have aros firmware burned in
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Actually the last AresOne and Boingboxes don't show the ARES-Screen anymore because it just takes to long for me : p
I disabled those and enabled quick boot and skipping test. If something is broken you will get it anyway. So after powering on the system it is within 3second in Wanderer (Hybrid drive).

You could use this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz_1TN4JqTA
on AROS to make a visual appealing Bootmenu. Set Grub bootime to 0 and add this to the startup-sequence.
You can theme it and change animations to look as you like it (also like AmigaOS grey in grey).





This one is also available for Linux and so we planned to add it as "payload" to a coreboot bios image. This was when we planned to make a x86 based system.

Posted on: 2015/1/4 13:06
www.aeros-os.org AEROS for Raspberry Pi
www.aros-broadway.de Native AROS for i386 and m68k
www.indiego-Gaming.com indieGO! The AppStore for all amigans
www.ares-shop.eu
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Re: The new x86 PC hardware will have aros firmware burned in
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@XDelusion

I know it's not exactly what you're talking about, but laptops, especially netbooks Ive noticed often have pretty quick post boot times.
Tuning a BIOS can make a big difference on some systems as well. Disabling everything not in use, and manually setting options where applicable (ie. don't select auto everywhere) can also help.

With the "right" mobo, on a cold boot you can be booting the OS (or at AROS "insert media" screen) by the time the display shows up. Throw in the option for the user to select the post background image for the times the user does see the boot process, some sort of flash media for kernel and boot loader, and it's a reasonable illusion.

Not perfect, but probably somewhat cheaper and more feasible than custom machines whose sole benefit is shaving off a second or two from initial post screen(s).

Posted on: 2015/1/4 12:45
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Re: The new x86 PC hardware will have aros firmware burned in
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Currently I fear modern UEFI systems, with all their requirements for certifies keys, as a thread for users that like to play around with alternative OSes.


AFAIK UEFI can be turned off in the BIOS? If this is the case then it will just add one step to the process of turning an ordinary x86 board into something great.

Posted on: 2015/1/4 10:43
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Re: The new x86 PC hardware will have aros firmware burned in
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I also had a similar idea, and even bought a couple of those IDE to CF card adapters to toy around with using the CF card as an "on board firmware" (it is on board if it's attached, right?).
With a custom BIOS POST graphic, and a minimal boot environment iso that can be flashed to CF / SD or USB we could have a simple process to convert your mobo into a "NG x86 Amiga". I don't know if there's a practical benefit, but the nostalgia value would be huge!

Posted on: 2015/1/4 10:34
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Imagine if we could have a PC that did not have to post to BIOS and could just start booting into the AROS GUI as soon as the PC is powered up. Oh the old days...


AFAIK there are (where ?) some PCs that had a minimal Linux in their BIOS ...

Whats missing is a page describing 'How it is done'

Currently I fear modern UEFI systems, with all their requirements for certifies keys, as a thread for users that like to play around with alternative OSes.

Posted on: 2015/1/4 10:23
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Re: The new x86 PC hardware will have aros firmware burned in
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You make it sound like it is not possible. Are you saying my request is not feasible?

Posted on: 2015/1/4 4:58
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Imagine if we could have a PC that did not have to post to BIOS and could just start booting into the AROS GUI as soon as the PC is powered up. Oh the old days...

Posted on: 2015/1/4 4:17
ASUS P5B SE
Intel Core Duo CPU 2.93Ghz
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Re: The new x86 PC hardware will have aros firmware burned in
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2., use some mildly customized USB mass storage device, hooked on one of the internal USB headers of the mainboard, or even a mini SATA Disk-On-Module, which could autoboot a mini-AROS and provide "AROS insert disk screen", or even early startup and CLI in case there's no other boot device. You could setup your custom BIOS to boot this device first, and from then on what you do is only the matter of what the custom AROS is configured to do on this "boot" disk.


That's it above! That is what I want! That is the closest thing that comes to mind. I would consider this as 95% of the closest thing that comes in my mind. Is there a petition or somehow convince that this will be implemented with the newer version of ArosOne hardware?

What can I do to get this happen so I can buy this machine?

Posted on: 2015/1/4 1:32
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