Wow, thanks everyone! I really appreciate all of your advice and friendly hints! :D

I would like to report that after taking everyone's hints to mind, I have successfully gotten Icaros installed and working on my ThinkPad and running natively! I had zeroed out the HDD first using Dan's Boot and Nuke (DBAN), then used GParted to create two empty, unformatted partitions. InstallAROS picked up on both of them, formatted them, and I have separate System and Work partitions now!

I'm keeping the ThinkPad attached to my router for the time for internet access, but wireless will be my next step to get working.

Thanks again for all the help!

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I installed ID V2.0 on a 30GB HDD. It gave me an error when it tried to partition the HDD. I found out that it had 2 partitions and one was a maintenance partition. When I used Linux to remove them and then used V2.0 installer to install it, it went fine.

<ol style="list-style-type: lower-alpha;"><li>1) The installer tends to fail when trying to partition my HDD (Toshiba MK8026GA PA00 HDD, 80GB) into separate "System" and "Work" partitions, a common habit I carried with me from Linux (separate /boot, /, and /home partitions). I have read elsewhere on these forums that this seems to be a bit of a common issue. I am curious to know whether preparing the partitions ahead of time with another tool, for example GParted, would possibly help out here with partition preparation.</li></ol><p>The fact you need to specify nodma for ATA.device at boot may indicate issues already, so partitioning in these conditions might need some more tailoring. Please try the alternative ata.device as well at boot, you can edit the grub entry (BTW, congrats for having done that by yourself, it's rare for newcomers ) and change the line beginning with /devs/ATA.device with /devs/alt/ATA.device. Pay attention to capital letters (which are not the one I wrote here), since it's case sensitive.</p><p>Please, use InstallAROS to make partitions. Just free up some space and tell AROS to use the available free space. At reboot, don't forget to apply again all your changes to GRUB as you did the first time.</p><ol style="list-style-type: lower-alpha;"><li>2) I know this one may be a very long stretch, but I was wondering if anyone has ever successfully managed to get wireless networking working on this particular model of ThinkPad.</li></ol><p>Sorry, my Thinkpad is from Lenovo already... So I can't help you here.</p><ol style="list-style-type: lower-alpha;"><li>3) I can only seem to boot from either the live DVD or HDD only if I use the ata=nodma boot parameter in GRUB. Using ata=32bit causes a hard lock before the Workbench even appears. I tried setting this boot paramter via Prefs, but I can't get it to save at all; the Save and Use buttons are greyed out and don't allow me to click them. Has anyone else had this sort of experience setting boot parameters and being unable to save them?</li></ol><p>/Prefs/Boot, AFAIK, should try changing the option on the boot loader you used to boot the system. Are you sure you dind't try it when booting from DVD?</p><ol style="list-style-type: lower-alpha;"><li>4) I can successfully use VESA video at the max resolution my panel can display at (1400x1050), but out of curiosity, is it possible to use accelerated video on this laptop? IIRC my video card is the 32MB ATI Mobility Radeon 9000</li></ol><p>You may try but, as you've already been told, results may vary. </p><p>welcome and enjoy your stay, BTW.</p><p></p><p></p>

Hi,

The installer should auto prepare the partitions. I assume the hard disk is without partitions? When I had a T42p, all I did was shrink the Windows partition with gparted and stuck AROS on the end of the hard disk.

You could use gparted or HDToolBox to prepare the partitions but then would be looking to manually install AROS - a lot of work compared to the simplicity of the installer.

The onboard intel wireless is not support but as the wiki suggest the alternative atheros might work. You could look to the realtek 8187b usb which are sadly hard to find now and hard to work out which chipset resides inside.

I found nodma was the only way to boot and work.

Accelerated 2D does work but only through an external vga monitor as the original driver was develeped on a desktop machine.

Wiki entry adapted to include T42 T43, they are all very similar.

Jeff

>>I am curious to know whether preparing the partitions ahead of time with another tool, for example GParted, would possibly help.

GParted does not recognize the Amigoid SFS file system. I sometimes use GParted to shrink or remove a partition and make room for AROS. Iirc, gparted sees AROS partitions as a single unknown partition.

>>I use the ata=nodma boot parameter in GRUB. Using ata=32bit causes a hard lock.

You might also try ata=32bit,nodma. You can edit the grub.cfg directly. It's located in the Arch directory.

>>is it possible to use accelerated video on this laptop? IIRC my video card is the 32MB ATI Mobility Radeon 9000.

No 3d acceleration. You might try booting in native mode, but results do vary. On most cards the graphics will not display correctly, on others you might get some limited 2d acceleration and more graphic modes than VESA.

-- And welcome, one and all

Hello, this is my first post too, and I only discovered AROS / Icaros a few weeks ago so my answers may not be worth a great deal, but here goes!

1) I haven't tried this with AROS, but I always found GParted perfect this this task with other OSes (and the AROS installer partition tool is fairly limited in comparison). I'd give it a go.
2) Again I'm not sure, but I believe it's just a matter of selecting the correct driver if available in prefs > network.
3) Have you tried editing the grub conf file? I think it's under System:/ arch / x86 or similar..
4) From everything I've read and experienced so far on the topic of accelerated video it seems that it's most likely to work on 7xxx - 9xxx series GeForce PCI-e cards and some series of Intel GMA chips. It sounds like most other chips including ATI are unlikely to work with the native (accelerated) drivers ATM. I'm currently looking at how to build a dedicated x86 AROS desktop machine, as a project as awesome as this deserves a dedicated machine :)

I also read mention a couple of times that Icaros 2.0 lost support for some video cards due to structural changes, and that the compatability list is not entirely up-to-date.

Good luck!

Hi LambdaCalculus,

first of all a very welcome to these forums and thank you for your interest in AROS/Icaros.

I can't help much with your questions, but i can give a little hint, e.g.
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AROS can do that much better for you

Travel your way through system:tools drawer and double click on PCI-tool. Travel the list and search for the hardware that needs identification. Write down vendor and product ID (additional revision as well) and point your browser to the wikibook to check if it's supported or not
- for audio/video
- for networking

Even though the complete HCL does not list your hardware, you should be able to use individual HW pages or complete HCL to see which things works for AROS. Unfortunately current listing are short, so there's a good change you won't be able to find it in the wiki. Sometimes a search on the forums concerning the model/name or PCI id helps as others mentioned it as either working or not).

Have fun !

<p>Hey folks, First time poster, so let me just say first: Icaros is pretty awesome so far. :) I had always wanted an Amiga as a kid, but could never get one (they were a little hard to come by in the US at times). That doesn't mean I wasn't utterly fascinated by them.</p><p>I discovered AROS, and more specifically Icaros Desktop, while reading up on a few articles about the Amiga, and decided to give it a crack in VirtualBox on my Mac. I ended up loving it, and kept the VM around to toy with. Once Icaros Desktop 2.0 was announced and released, I dug out an old IBM ThinkPad T42 (not a p model) I had laying around and decided to install it on there.</p><p>Now, I admit that I'm rather proficient with various Unix OSes, as well as Linux, I'm not very good with Amigas at the moment, and have a lot to learn. I managed to get Icaros Desktop up and running for the most part on my T42, but I have a few issues that I'm looking to try and resolve, or at least gain some knowledge about.</p><ol style="list-style-type: lower-alpha;"><li>1) The installer tends to fail when trying to partition my HDD (Toshiba MK8026GA PA00 HDD, 80GB) into separate "System" and "Work" partitions, a common habit I carried with me from Linux (separate /boot, /, and /home partitions). I have read elsewhere on these forums that this seems to be a bit of a common issue. I am curious to know whether preparing the partitions ahead of time with another tool, for example GParted, would possibly help out here with partition preparation.</li><li>2) I know this one may be a very long stretch, but I was wondering if anyone has ever successfully managed to get wireless networking working on this particular model of ThinkPad. I believe my model has a Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG wireless card included, but I am not 100% and may need to check this again using a Linux live CD to check out the hardware configuration. But in whatever case, what are the success stories (if any) of getting this card to play nice with Icaros and work properly?</li><li>3) I can only seem to boot from either the live DVD or HDD only if I use the ata=nodma boot parameter in GRUB. Using ata=32bit causes a hard lock before the Workbench even appears. I tried setting this boot paramter via Prefs, but I can't get it to save at all; the Save and Use buttons are greyed out and don't allow me to click them. Has anyone else had this sort of experience setting boot parameters and being unable to save them?</li><li>4) I can successfully use VESA video at the max resolution my panel can display at (1400x1050), but out of curiosity, is it possible to use accelerated video on this laptop? IIRC my video card is the 32MB ATI Mobility Radeon 9000.</li></ol><p></p><p>Please note that I have checked the compatibility list located <a href="https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Aros/Platforms/x86_Complete_System_HCL#IBM.2FLenovo">here</a>, but it lists only the ThinkPad T42p, and not my model (T42). Any help anyone can offer will be greatly appreciated. Many thanks. :)</p>