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By default AROS linux hosted uses X11 for displaying graphics, so yes you would have to install X11 in that case.


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That dependency is a so called vDSO and is dynamically 'generated' by the linux kernel (if the kernel was compiled that way when instructed to do so).


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An alternative to that is to remove all AROS drivers related to X11 and use linuxfb.hidd (video) and linuxinput.hidd (mouse/keyboard) listed inside AROSBootstrap config instead.

I'm too unfamiliar with linux too have a solution to stop AROS input from entering the host terminal or drawing on each terminal window (after all it is a framebuffer) but perhaps if you run straight from boot without virtual terminals things work better (i still have to try that myself one day).

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Yes, of course. Just like you would do on a 'classic' Amiga workbench.

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That is a dynamically in memory generated library and is generated when the network stack is successfully initialized (as then it would make sense to expose the features to actually be able to use the stack).

Just like a vDSO sort of speak.

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afaik not by default, but there is enough API available to make that happen. Broadway (commercial version) has the lx command and Icaros has the rabbit hole scripts. refer to their distributions if you would want to check them out.

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It depends on your windows manager. So many of those and even so many solutions. The default Raspbian Jessie desktop uses F11 key (icw shift, alt or ctrl sorry as i can't recall) to make a X11 window go full-screen. There is 3th party software that would perhaps be able to generalize some things for X11. Just google for it (i would have to do so as well)



On a more personal note: for some reason i seem unable to get sound working. AHI improved from crashing in 2016 to showing an empty (unit) list in 2018 (quite an improvement ) audio device is listed as pointing to devs:AHI\.audio if i recall correctly (which seems wierd/buggy to me).

Ah well, seems that native is on its way.... keeping my fingers crossed it will be 64 bit besides the endian swap (hi Dr. Schultz)

edit: typo's

The registered Aeros distribution comes with a command called "lx" that executes Linux programs from the AROS shell so AROS acts as a window manager for the Linux host operating system.

I looked around and found in a faq in the source tree that "export AROS_X11_FULLSCREEN=1" before launching should put it in full screen.

But it does not really change anything, I get a large AROS screen-window. The problem is that if I have a Linux window, like a shell or Emacs open on top and then select an AROS window, the whole workbench goes on top of the Linux window, always making it invisible. Is there a way to make them share the screen better?

I would like to try the dock, I assume that is BoingIconBar. I can add programs to it in preferences, but I have yet to get the dock to show. There is such program in System:Tools, but nothing happens when I double click it. How is it supposed to work?

@hth313

it's possible to have aros in fullscreen, iirc it's an option you specify to AROSBootstrap same for the amount of memory you want aos to have.

it's possible to change shell font too i think, do as you would on amiga.

for the network part, you need to setup a specific device on linux side (tap device, iirc),
your best bet is to find a tutorial online on how to do that:

https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Aros/User/Networking#Basic_Configuration_-_Linux_hosted:_tap.device

some aros version have the possibility to run linux command from aros.
one of these aros "distro" is aeros. i don't know if icaros allows it too. i think vanilla aros don't have such command yet.

Using ldd to show dependencies did not help so much, strangely enough. It wants linux-vdso.so.1 which I have not been able to locate.

But yes, I only have a root shell, so I installed lxde and xinit, then invoked xinit to get X11 up. After that I could open AROS!

First impression is that it looks quite nice and has a distinctive Amiga feel. I like the look a lot better than the Icaros I tried on a VM in the past.

Is there a way to change the font in AmigaShell? It looks kind of thin.

I tried ping, but it wants bsdsocket.library version 3, and I could find no such thing in libs:.

The desktop is just a window, is it possible to have it better integrated with the rest of X11?

Is there a way to invoke linux programs from inside the AmigaShell?

@hth313

Running latest raspbian with lxde desktop on rpi3 and it works. It also feels very light! Just opened some drawers and a couple of tools like the editor and dopus. Will try to set up network connection later to try owb.

it sounds to me he's trying to start aros from a shell, but not within X11.
just plain root shell.
he probably doesn't have X11 installed, so aros fail to start.

to get list of aros dependencies, (all the things you need to install)
try "ldd AROSBootstrap"

sorry im no able to help with this. the drivers are as on amiga in devs/monitors. i should probably look what i do have there on x86 linux hosted. you may have appropriate driver left in storage. but i dont know if this is the issue, but it is a good sign that it boots.

I would like to try AROS on Raspberry Pi, so I installed the nightly on my RPi.

The RPi is a 3B+ with RetroPie which is currently not using any X11, just some emulators which I assume rely on SDL to do their sounds and graphics.

Anyway, wawa pointed me to the nightly builds so I picked up the hosted version fromhttp://aros.sourceforge.net/nightly.php (seems to be down now when I write it).

I unpacked (20180820) and looked around, then tried <tt>./Arch/linux/AROSBootstrap </tt>which resulted in some output, followed by "Display driver(s) failed to initialize. Entering emergency shell."

I suspect it depends on some packages that are not installed, and I wonder what I should install?