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Re: Pegasos 2 Emulator
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It is a similar problem like Steve with icons in "OS4" style. What he did was legal but not wished by Hyperion because of their "exclusiv" strategy.

Emulating a environment is done with hundreds of systems (UAE is one example) and so I think it is legal but it is not wished by Hyperion.

Posted on: 2012/11/13 12:04
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Re: Pegasos 2 Emulator
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I think similar as Wawa. I doubt that there is any interest from MOS-Team or Hyperion to support this idea. Expecially Hyperion has a totally different strategy with a high-price OS bundled with rare and expensive hardware. Many hardcore OS4 users would never use a PC because they prefer "not to be mainstream". They have developed not only emotions to PPC. For me difficult to understand today but I was thinking different in the "classic" time when I used my A4000. Also you see on the "G5" bounty on MOS that the MOS-Team people want to get money for porting (even when they additionally get money by the licenses). And from the MOS-User there are certainly some who would be interested but I do not know how many would really give money.

From the legal side I could imagine that emulating a hardware environment like Pegasos (without installing a OS) could be ok.

Posted on: 2012/11/13 11:59
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If they can sell some extra licenses, why should'nt they be happy about the money ?


same answer as with mac mini port. perhaps they fear piratery. perhaps they prefer to sell os4 bundled with expensive hardware because they somehow get more mony from that. remember pegasos is abandoned eol hardware same as classic, the port being released under similar circumstances, quite late. i suspect both were rather justified trying to get mos and 68k users into os4 boat, that attitude might not be applicable otherwise.

especially trying to develop an emulator for running os4 on cheap hardware, license not bound to this hardware might be considered undermining os4 hardware development (because who would buy an expensive machine if he can get cheap one) and supporting piratery (because you can probably just copy the os over from one machine to another as the license is not hardware bound.

all in all, id rather ask hyperion and hardware vendors if they are fine with what you propose. you know there are some trigger happy lawyers..

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Well, having AROS, MorphOS and OS4 available on affordable Hardware, might attract some new Developers, that are not willing to buy expensive extra Hardware. As all three are somehow API compatible, I can see a benefit for AROS.

BTW. I am not really a OS4 or MorphOS fan, but if I could have both for reasonable cost without the need to have dozens of PCs in my working room, I would give it a try.


i dont see so many developers in os4 to be attracted alas. and if there are any, aros ppc port jason is working on, will fill in the gap much better in favour of aros.
similarly i think nnative or hosted version for macintosh will suit to attract mos devs if at all possible.

i can imagine there are people seeing os4 and mos on x86, but i prefer the companies and gremiums involved make their decissions themselves, as their decissions are not neccesarily in accordance what users want. escpecially i dont see the reason to support os4. remember what happened to clusteruk initiative.

Posted on: 2012/11/13 11:39
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Re: Pegasos 2 Emulator
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Exactly. In OS4's case, it is also the only version besides PowerPC Accelerators, that is not bundled with Hardware.



How about sam440/460 version.


I want the bounty audience as large as possible. There is no sam version of MorphOS, so...

Posted on: 2012/11/13 11:13
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Re: Pegasos 2 Emulator
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Anyway.
How fast the PC must be to emulate 1GHz G4?

Posted on: 2012/11/13 11:06
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Exactly. In OS4's case, it is also the only version besides PowerPC Accelerators, that is not bundled with Hardware.



How about sam440/460 version.

Posted on: 2012/11/13 11:04
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i think its because there is both mos and os4 avaliable for it .


Exactly. In OS4's case, it is also the only version besides PowerPC Accelerators, that is not bundled with Hardware.

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still i would prefer not to start yet another project that would drain aros manpower.


I certainly have no intention to drain manpower from AROS.
I posted the Idea here, because there usually are some very clever developers around that could tell me if there is something wrong / unrealistic with my bounty description.


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os4 and mos supporters claim they are happy with their hardware and at least im not sure if hyperion would be happy with whats been proposed here.


If they can sell some extra licenses, why should'nt they be happy about the money ?

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also i hardly think aros can benefit from that except a few pieces of mos applications and a few os4 sdl ports that have not been available for aros (which exactly?).


Well, having AROS, MorphOS and OS4 available on affordable Hardware, might attract some new Developers, that are not willing to buy expensive extra Hardware. As all three are somehow API compatible, I can see a benefit for AROS.

BTW. I am not really a OS4 or MorphOS fan, but if I could have both for reasonable cost without the need to have dozens of PCs in my working room, I would give it a try.

Posted on: 2012/11/13 10:48
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Re: Pegasos 2 Emulator
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OK I got it.
so it's about modern version of UAE.


Posted on: 2012/11/12 22:21
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i think its because there is both mos and os4 avaliable for it .
still i would prefer not to start yet another project that would drain aros manpower. os4 and mos supporters claim they are happy with their hardware and at least im not sure if hyperion would be happy with whats been proposed here. also i hardly think aros can benefit from that except a few pieces of mos applications and a few os4 sdl ports that have not been available for aros (which exactly?).

Posted on: 2012/11/12 22:04
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Re: Pegasos 2 Emulator
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Well we have already qemu and pearpc...

Why not emulate X1000? Mac Mini?

Sorry I dont understand this idea


Posted on: 2012/11/12 21:01
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