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Re: Aros File system!
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i imagine that ever filesystem port is welcome, but i didnt miss that much, there was even a talk about an aros specific filesystem, as much as we have one working well, for me is enough...we have lot of work/study on this field (filesystems) to be some of deeper concern, the a ideia of a mt rainer support would be something diferent! =o)

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by Dagon on 2004/6/2 6:53:05

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Sounds like a good idea having a mainstream file system (I sure dont want fat32 as my standard fs, I just want it for having a common access partition between win and aros) but aren't those other file systems bound to the unix structure (paths etc)? I mean it would be nice to mount my bsd or linux partitions on Aros whenever I want but I dont want my Aros partitions to be case sensitive or having the same path structure with unix.


Although Fabio states that a case sensitive issue can be worked around within a given FS (but with speed and coherency problems), the path structure is not an issue for a file system. As long as the file system is fast and doesn't puke on me (and if it does, the tools fix automatically without me having to touch more then a "y" key), I don't care what file system is being used.

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Posted on: 2004/6/2 14:11
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Sounds like a good idea having a mainstream file system (I sure dont want fat32 as my standard fs, I just want it for having a common access partition between win and aros) but aren't those other file systems bound to the unix structure (paths etc)? I mean it would be nice to mount my bsd or linux partitions on Aros whenever I want but I dont want my Aros partitions to be case sensitive or having the same path structure with unix.

If it isn`t possible to be adapted to the Amiga way then I'd like to see something like sfs ported.

PS: I don`t ask "port this or port that", (I hope that soon I will be able to contribute myself to the Aros project) I just want to know what is possible and what's not (i.e. is it feasible that Aros FS can surpass the file name lenght problem? can ext3 be adapted into the Amiga way?)

Posted on: 2004/6/2 10:53
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I agree. Ext3, JFS, or Rieser should be next after FAT32. We need a good Journaled filesystem. Ext3 is journaled and rather mature (read, bug-free). It would also allow for better sharing of the drive with Linux. Think about it, you could actually have AmigaOS on the same partition as Linux and be able to still boot it. It would be like switching between Linux kernels.


Posted on: 2004/6/2 8:28
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by Dagon on 2004/6/1 15:19:09


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Is there any chance that in the future we might see these limitations (i.e. file length) surpassed or it can't be done and we should forget about it and use some other file system (like sfs if ported) instead?


I really don't see why (although if someone wants to do code for sfs, go for it) such obscure file systemss should be focused on. I much rather have mainstream (since FAT32 is already being worked on) file systems like Ext 2/3 or Rieser be supported. The more advanced file system tools (or access to the source code of those tools) that AROS can draw on, the better. After years of the mainstream file systems going through developement, why shouldn't AROS take advantage of those man hours spent?

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Posted on: 2004/6/1 19:30
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That's AFS, which is a reimplementation of Amiga FFS, so it has the same limitations and features.


Is there any chance that in the future we might see these limitations (i.e. file name length) surpassed or it can't be done and we should forget about it and use some other file system (like sfs if ported) instead?

Posted on: 2004/6/1 19:19
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by CoolCat29 on 2004/6/1 11:28:41

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is confirmed that the ide.device is the problem of slow I/O?
i think the CD I/O is much faster than the HD one! (as you point now, i hope it is not a ffs problem)


The API for all this is being rewritten for the ata.device, which is one of the major reasons this project deadline was extended. But the slow access should be gone with the new ata.device, once it's finished.

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Posted on: 2004/6/1 16:34
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Re: Aros File system!
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is confirmed that the ide.device is the problem of slow I/O?
i think the CD I/O is much faster than the HD one! (as you point now, i hope it is not a ffs problem)

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by Tjodden on 2004/6/1 7:21:34


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I'm guessing you mean the filesystem we use in native for harddrives, right? That's AFS, which is a reimplementation of Amiga FFS, so it has the same limitations and features.


And hopefully FAT32 in the near future. ;)

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Posted on: 2004/6/1 12:55
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I'm guessing you mean the filesystem we use in native for harddrives, right? That's AFS, which is a reimplementation of Amiga FFS, so it has the same limitations and features.

On the CDs we use ISO9660 with Rock Ridge extensions (also very common FS), and on hosted we simply access the underlying filesystem (so any limitations are placed on the host).

Posted on: 2004/6/1 11:21
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