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Re: AROS problems
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FWIW, the switch box is a Belkin.

Posted on: 2005/1/24 5:51
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Re: AROS problems
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Just for reference I've got about a dozen 4 way KVM switches in use at work (mostly Genius brand), and the mouse ports on them have all broken after 6 months (or just didn't work at all).

I've seen several other server rooms using seperate mice too, so I guess it's not uncommon for them to cause problems!

(this is using Windows NT through 2003 servers)

Posted on: 2005/1/24 5:48
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Re: AROS problems
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BTW, resetting the swithcer is impossible so I'll have to put a separate mouse on the machine.


Or fix the mouse driver? The problem might be that mouse packets end up coming in out of sync after the switch. In theory it should automatically re-sync after some time, but maybe that does not work too well. There's only bit 3 of first mouse packet byte which can be checked for out-of-sync detection. It must be 1. But any of the 3 or 4 bytes in a mouse packet might be 1 (depending on mouse event). That's the problem.

Problem could also be that on one computer the mouse has activated wheel-mode (4 bytes per packet, instead of 3 bytes per packet) while on the other it has not. Does wheel work in AROS?

Or that mouse driver in general needs some specific handling for those switch thingies (how do those work anyway?). Like listening for specific "errors" (reconnect?) from ps2 port. And possibly reset mouse in that case? Possibly also re-sending wheel-init-sequence?





Posted on: 2005/1/24 3:21
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Re: AROS problems
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CoolCat29 wrote:
in theory forcedma should do no harm...it will just fail if not avaible...but doesnt crash. at least in theory!

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Actually, the jumper setting was the problem.
Now I just need to redo things so grub actually works.

BTW, resetting the swithcer is impossible so I'll have to put a separate mouse on the machine.

Posted on: 2005/1/24 2:26
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Re: AROS problems
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in theory forcedma should do no harm...it will just fail if not avaible...but doesnt crash. at least in theory!

regards,

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Re: AROS problems
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olivier wrote:
When in grub menu, would you try to edit the "kernel" line you choose, by pressing "E", then try, for instance, to remove each ATA arguments, even ATA itself. What does it return?

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I was able to set up the hard drive partition etc... with the hdtoolbox (even though it STILL locks up and crashes at times). However, AROS can't see the CD and the format64 command isn't on the floppy.


Are you sure your IDE scheme is something like:
first master: hard disk
second master: cd
And do the drives jumpers reflect this?
And yes, the Format64 command is in the contributions, on the CD.

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I tried mounting CD0: manually but it gives me the error 'Cannot open "ide.device" unit 1'.


But AROS is smarter than that!
Normally, the CD is auto-mounted, as floppies are.
But, due to some naming convention (don't tell me), when in native, the CD device is "CD1".
Anyway, it can't work that way.
On hosted, you could do whatever you want, your CD device relying on the DEVS:Mounlist.


Ok, I had to change the jumper on the IDE drive (it wasn't set to master) and I edited the "forcedma" out of the grub startup. It *looks* like things are going to work now.

Thanks for your help!

Posted on: 2005/1/24 1:34
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Re: AROS problems
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I tried mounting CD0: manually but it gives me the error 'Cannot open "ide.device" unit 1'
Shouldn't it be ata.device these days, as well?

Posted on: 2005/1/24 1:04
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Re: AROS problems
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I have a switch box that lets me share the same monitor, keyboard and mouse with two systems. Whenever I switch away from AROS and back the mouse driver goes nuts and I have to reboot AROS to get control again.


I have myself such a KVM, an HP (J1473A) to switch from linux to AROS.
And sometimes, it goes mad too.
A solution is to manually reset the KVM port at running time, thanks to the magic keyboard shortcut (2 x [CTRL] here), to PS/2 Keyboard and Wheel Mouse.
Then, if it doesn't work, I too have to reboot AROS.

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Now the big problem...
I have ISO images of AROSMax, AROS snapshot and AROS nightly build... none boot properly.
The computer bios supports booting from CD and it works fine with other operating systems. It even works with the AROS CDs up to a point. It loads AROS to where it needs a boot device and then the IDE becomes unreadable. I then have to boot from a floppy image.


When in grub menu, would you try to edit the "kernel" line you choose, by pressing "E", then try, for instance, to remove each ATA arguments, even ATA itself. What does it return?

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I was able to set up the hard drive partition etc... with the hdtoolbox (even though it STILL locks up and crashes at times). However, AROS can't see the CD and the format64 command isn't on the floppy.


Are you sure your IDE scheme is something like:
first master: hard disk
second master: cd
And do the drives jumpers reflect this?
And yes, the Format64 command is in the contributions, on the CD.

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I tried mounting CD0: manually but it gives me the error 'Cannot open "ide.device" unit 1'.


But AROS is smarter than that!
Normally, the CD is auto-mounted, as floppies are.
But, due to some naming convention (don't tell me), when in native, the CD device is "CD1".
Anyway, it can't work that way.
On hosted, you could do whatever you want, your CD device relying on the DEVS:Mounlist.

I use myself AROS on an old pc@600 (ASUS P3C) with an, old but AROS compatible, 16MB Graphic Blaster (NVidia).
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The system uses an AMD K6-2 550MHz, DFI K6XV3+ (I think) motherboard with VIA chipset supporting IDE UDMA66, PCI, AGP, built in USB, parallel, serial, etc. The graphics card is an AGP ATi Radeon 7000.

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Re: AROS problems
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I am using the failsafe setting... it's trying UDMA101f by the look of it.

Posted on: 2005/1/23 23:20
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Re: AROS problems
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Yeah, not all UDMA is created equal, dropping back to PIO (part of what the failsafe mode does) often helps on older machines.

Posted on: 2005/1/23 19:57
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