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Re: Review of Self Compile Bounty Description
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In my opinion this bounty could be a great chance to have most of the required Linux/UNIX porting requirements finally implemented for AROS. This is very necessary to have a point where a community can start off with known and proven tools to develop their own AROS world.

So I also suggest to break this bounty down to implement POSIX features like signaling and pthread like mentioned by craid-hjb before.

But I do not think it is necessary to deliver the whole bunch of GNU tools in this case. Just implement the "future proof" missing features mentioned above and the core of the tools that are essentially required to build AROS natively.

I guess the rest of the tools will be ported faster than one may expect after the core requirements for porting were made available.

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Posted on: 2007/2/12 16:58
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sorry... scrolling keeps the world going. Next time I'll post such stupid things to PM.

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Great! An when we are on it, post your opinion about the self-compile bounty now Cohlrhabi!

Posted on: 2007/2/12 16:31
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Thx,

sorry... scrolling keeps the world going. Next time I'll post such stupid things to PM.

Posted a few bucks now!!!

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Posted on: 2007/2/12 16:26
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Re: Review of Self Compile Bounty Description
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In the open bounties list, there is no paypal button (not in FireFox at least).


Well, in here http://thenostromo.com/teamaros2/index.php displays a page with 3 latest news entries followed by a list of open & assigned bounties WITH buttons for each bounty IN Firefox.. this works on several machines here..

Apart of it, why don?t you move such questions into the PM area?!

Posted on: 2007/2/12 16:05
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Re: Review of Self Compile Bounty Description
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I tried it herehttp://thenostromo.com/teamaros2/index.php directly on the home page <...Team AROS now accepts PayPal credit/debit ...>, it links to a missing french paypal site...


Ah, probably an artifact from Olivier2222's test bed. I'll point it out to him, thanks. :)

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In the open bounties list, there is no paypal button (not in FireFox at least).


You have to use the main page for now. There is a bunch of "todo" on the site, putting donation buttons (and updating the Corporate Sponor page) on individual bounties is one of them.

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Posted on: 2007/2/12 15:19
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Re: Review of Self Compile Bounty Description
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Dammy,

I tried it herehttp://thenostromo.com/teamaros2/index.php directly on the home page <...Team AROS now accepts PayPal credit/debit ...>, it links to a missing french paypal site...

In the open bounties list, there is no paypal button (not in FireFox at least).

Manu

Posted on: 2007/2/12 15:00
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Re: Review of Self Compile Bounty Description
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What's the aim of the bounty, to have AROS self-compile, or to port all those tools to AROS? That needs to be decided first.


Well, maybe we could let the bounty hunter choose here, and at least draft the possibilities, like:

Creating tools to allow AROS to self-compile, by

1. creating a custom solution to generate the binaries of the AROS core tree

or by

2. porting the GNU tools involved in the build process as done on GNU/Linux, as:

- implement signaling in AROS clib
- implement/port pthreads
- enhance AROS shell to be bourne-compatible or optionally port one (abc-shell)
- GAWK, Bison, Flex, Autoconf, Automake



To me it at least imparts a better overview what needs to be done then the single-sentence definition right now.

Posted on: 2007/2/12 14:10
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GCC and related tools are already available for AROS.

As for whether I would prefer a custom solution: it's not up to me, but rather up to whoever choses to take up on the bounty.

What's the aim of the bounty, to have AROS self-compile, or to port all those tools to AROS? That needs to be decided first.

If the aim is to make it possible to compile AROS within itself, then whichever means to achieve that is good.

Posted on: 2007/2/12 13:54
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..it's rather about porting all those tools to AROS plus implementing functionalities in a existing library..


What would be the way you would prefer then? That actually is the reason of this thread, to discuss the path to go, since someone who is new to AROS does not know about pros and cons of a certain path. e.g. adding signaling to our clib instead of porting the static clib2.

The whole process and the source tree is dependent on the AROS build system which is based upon those tools, the build system itself may not be perfect but it surely makes things easier and concise. Would you prefer a completely new custom solution?

May I add that GCC can be seen as "one of those tools" aswell..

Posted on: 2007/2/12 13:34
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Re: Review of Self Compile Bounty Description
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I don't think the bounty description should list which tools need to be ported at all. The bounty is for selfcompilation, by whichever means that's obtained.


That is true as for now, including tools like GAWK, Bison, Flex, Autoconf, Automake might not be needed, but taking the way by updating our shell (or atleast porting abc-shell) and adding signalling+pthreads would make it future-safe IMO. ..and would bring us features needed anyway.


Then the bounty isn't about self-compilation, it's rather about porting all those tools to AROS plus implementing functionalities in a existing library and whole library from scratch. All these things might have as side-effect the fact that AROS would become self-compilable.

Posted on: 2007/2/12 13:06
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