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Re: New video shows a preview of next Icaros' AmiBridge
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Does that mean that you can have that feature as default and that you can load the emulator in the background every time you start AROS?

In theory this is should already be possible

Running the emulator on startup however might not be a good idea (depending on your hardware, as it is very demanding), but letting it start whenever you want to should.

afaik there is no difference in starting an adf with the emulator or any other file(type) for that matter. Just take a look at the iconx-scripts behind those adf game icons.

Ofcourse making it easy (click-n-run) requires some work and indept knowledge on how things are able to run.

For an enduser it might be obvious f.e. that a Cinema4D file can't be opened by (native) aros, so that it should automatically startup the emulator (then indirectly starting cinnema4d and feeding the file from AROS), but doing it programmatically is a different ballgame that has a lot of hurdles.

Just trying to do something like that with some simple scripting (and letting it work in every situation with meaningfull output in case things go wrong) is a hideous task.

In the end i believe something like a real 68k virtualization platform (like moggen's emumiga) to be the better answer.

Posted on: 2012/12/20 16:43
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Re: New video shows a preview of next Icaros' AmiBridge
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Btw, where did you find that backdrop in the movie? :)

Posted on: 2012/12/20 14:56
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Re: New video shows a preview of next Icaros' AmiBridge
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I misunderstood that part. It sounds great! :D

Does that mean that you can have that feature as default and that you can load the emulator in the background every time you start AROS?

Posted on: 2012/12/20 13:20
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Re: New video shows a preview of next Icaros' AmiBridge
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Yes with Emumiga or with qemu user-mode emulation. In both cases it could be possible to use native libraries making classic apps more appealing.

Posted on: 2012/12/20 13:00
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Re: New video shows a preview of next Icaros' AmiBridge
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Looks very promising. Would it at all be possible to run 68k programs in native Wanderer? In theory I mean.


It's exactly what default coherency mode is meant to do: it won't run 68K software *directly* because it is IMPOSSIBLE. But it will give you the sensation it does.


Posted on: 2012/12/20 12:59
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Re: New video shows a preview of next Icaros' AmiBridge
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Looks very promising. Would it at all be possible to run 68k programs in native Wanderer? In theory I mean.

Posted on: 2012/12/20 12:54
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Re: New video shows a preview of next Icaros' AmiBridge
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Is coherency mode been improved ?
I mean, a user should be able to open for example a MOD song with a 68k amiga app (eagleplayer for example).


The answer is NO. For some reasons:

1. opening a file on x86 with its icon to call a 68K program would require a translator in the meanwhile, which is not available yet. The translator should be universal (every file bound to any 68K program should call the translator as default tool) and then the translator should open the 68K environment if necessary (whatever it will be, AROS 68K or Amiga), open the program you need and then make it load your desired file. It shouldn't be a difficult task to do and I suspect Beezle already adventured in something like that, but certainly Icaros won't include such a feature for now.

2. opening a file with a M68K program when there are plenty of native alternatives would be plain stupid, since it would add the whole emulation overhead to performances, reducing them noticeably.

However, you may always bind files to your fav tools in 68K mode when using Wanderer 68K or Workbench under emulation.

Posted on: 2012/12/20 10:44
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Re: New video shows a preview of next Icaros' AmiBridge
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@Paolone:

Is coherency mode been improved ?
I mean, a user should be able to open for example a MOD song with a 68k amiga app (eagleplayer for example).

Can you do a video showing this feature ?

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Re: New video shows a preview of next Icaros' AmiBridge
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Are right-click menus working now in coherency mode? (AROS68k)

So far it looks awesome : )

Posted on: 2012/12/19 8:35
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Re: New video shows a preview of next Icaros' AmiBridge
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I like it ;).

Really nice integration, always interesting to see, how all those features can be used in a well configured environment.

Posted on: 2012/12/19 8:21
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