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Re: [Odyssey Web Browser wishlist ]: WebGL & dependencies necessary for use of Babylon.js & three.js
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I'm much in the same boat as Sabbate. I can beta test and donate money.


I'm not against the idea of donation but I don't want collect donation for any of my projects until I have done some 'tangible' level of work on my part and a momentum going on my part beyond just reading some source code.

As I am studying the challenges faced, I wouldn't want take money before hand. I want to be sure people are getting something tangible, so to speak, and that donations are like rewards for accomplishments made and an encouragement to reach the next mile stone.

As for beta testing, that will be great when we get to that stage.


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Re: [Odyssey Web Browser wishlist ]: WebGL & dependencies necessary for use of Babylon.js & three.js
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guys is the least I can do, aros must live

Posted on: 2018/7/7 11:35
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Re: [Odyssey Web Browser wishlist ]: WebGL & dependencies necessary for use of Babylon.js & three.js
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I'm much in the same boat as Sabbate. I can beta test and donate money.

Posted on: 2018/7/7 11:26
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Re: [Odyssey Web Browser wishlist ]: WebGL & dependencies necessary for use of Babylon.js & three.js
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I had to uninstall aros for owb, no longer updated for a few years and I was sorry, I understand the situation hate of what goes around it for its development etc .. etc ..., your work would be very welcome and I would say that I would have no words to add about, what I can do as a simple user and make some donation for your work, if you want to send in private your paypal address, I will provide according to my possibilities.
I was born with amiga and aros for me to use it on my computer is like an oasis in the desert, I spent years developing and using it as a main system and I think I'm not alone.

have a good day


We can touch basis on donation/paypal stuff at a future date. I am currently not ready to collect donations for this at the moment. As for wawa and others, they'll speak for themselves. I'm just speaking for myself. At least to me, your positive support is encouraging.

Posted on: 2018/7/7 10:45
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Re: [Odyssey Web Browser wishlist ]: WebGL & dependencies necessary for use of Babylon.js & three.js
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Sound good. I might want to run Linux in the VMPlayer from a thumb drive or some Flash media for development but I probably could fit it in my remaining 1.4+ TB of free space of the main hard drive. It doesn't hurt me to use any distribution of Linux but for developmental purpose, at least one setup in Lubuntu would make sense so we are working on the same page with less headache that would result from running different distribution packages.



usb thumb might slow things down. better use an drive image on a fast interface, that remains fast with little non sequential file writes and eads like when copiling complex source. also dedicate enough space for the image. from my experience 100gb can be tight, but im compiling many targets in parallel. but consider it, before you need to use gparted to expand the image.

the version of lubuntu i use is dated and slowly annoyes me, when i need to get yet another package. also it has limited functionalities like no source higlighting in basic editor. but ubuntu and plain debian annoyed me more to start with, so best do make your own choice.

important is to get something fairly mainstream due to packages chhoice.


I think I have enough room on my hard drive for it. I still technically have an unused terabyte of my hard drive volume as well as an additional hard drive that I can install on to one of the SATA connectors on the mobo.

I have room to do a larger build if I need to later but I have some 1200+ GBytes still free on the HD that is active but the main OS has some room. Not too big of a problem at this time.


Posted on: 2018/7/7 10:39
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Re: [Odyssey Web Browser wishlist ]: WebGL & dependencies necessary for use of Babylon.js & three.js
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hello

I had to uninstall aros for owb, no longer updated for a few years and I was sorry, I understand the situation hate of what goes around it for its development etc .. etc ..., your work would be very welcome and I would say that I would have no words to add about, what I can do as a simple user and make some donation for your work, if you want to send in private your paypal address, I will provide according to my possibilities.
I was born with amiga and aros for me to use it on my computer is like an oasis in the desert, I spent years developing and using it as a main system and I think I'm not alone.

have a good day

Posted on: 2018/7/7 10:02
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Re: [Odyssey Web Browser wishlist ]: WebGL & dependencies necessary for use of Babylon.js & three.js
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Sound good. I might want to run Linux in the VMPlayer from a thumb drive or some Flash media for development but I probably could fit it in my remaining 1.4+ TB of free space of the main hard drive. It doesn't hurt me to use any distribution of Linux but for developmental purpose, at least one setup in Lubuntu would make sense so we are working on the same page with less headache that would result from running different distribution packages.



usb thumb might slow things down. better use an drive image on a fast interface, that remains fast with little non sequential file writes and eads like when copiling complex source. also dedicate enough space for the image. from my experience 100gb can be tight, but im compiling many targets in parallel. but consider it, before you need to use gparted to expand the image.

the version of lubuntu i use is dated and slowly annoyes me, when i need to get yet another package. also it has limited functionalities like no source higlighting in basic editor. but ubuntu and plain debian annoyed me more to start with, so best do make your own choice.

important is to get something fairly mainstream due to packages chhoice.

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Re: [Odyssey Web Browser wishlist ]: WebGL & dependencies necessary for use of Babylon.js & three.js
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The computer specs used by the person in the second link would be comparable to a system we would be using for AROS in the next 5 years. It


ill stay with amiga i guess;)

Posted on: 2018/7/7 9:50
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Re: [Odyssey Web Browser wishlist ]: WebGL & dependencies necessary for use of Babylon.js & three.js
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Just some thoughts. I wouldn't want or expect WebGL to be something for everyone on the lower end of the hardware specs for AOS4, MorphOS, or AROS.


keep in mind aros compiles from the same source for such a low spec systems as amiga.
first of all you can use conditionals for compilation of specific modules with specific flags for specific targets. consult for instance my mmakefile.src fo odyssey, specifcly sections like those beginning with:
ifneq ($(AROS_TARGET_CPU),i386)
...

It would be something that in my opinion should be user selectable as to whether it is enabled or disabled for a mainstream browser.

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Using a customized OWB as a client for an online game, app or something else online, can be set by the game, app, or whatever developer as appropriate.


it might even be a tooltype that specifies it. generally a featuret thats too heavy for certain system can simply be ommited by the user, specially if it doesnt consume resources while idle.

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Now, as far as asm.js support. I'm not exactly sure where that is in the OWB but still.


as you might see i have used a cmake flag to disable jit in my odyssey makefile for targets other than x86 and x64. just grep the source for capital JIT defines or undefines and you should be able to track it down. ive been through it initially but dont remember that offhand.


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Re: [Odyssey Web Browser wishlist ]: WebGL & dependencies necessary for use of Babylon.js & three.js
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wawa wrote:

use vmware player.

install your preferred linux (i use lubuntu but maybe ubuntu inself or debian as such improved since).

install vmware tools to your guest to drag and drop data and share clipboard between windows host and linux vm, (important for convenience).

within linux, here are instructions how to build it:
http://aros.sourceforge.net/documentation/developers/compiling.php

and my additional info in post #3:

http://aros-exec.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=10828&forum=2

its basically seting up necessary packages (note youll need proper version of flex 2.5.35 for few things like owb and grub2 but it depends if you want to build these at all) simple configuration command and make (eventually make bootiso).

you can test aros on:
1. hosted (linux and mingw under windows),
2. within vm(ware) (player), (youll need to install it from bootiso)
3. within qemu emulation, (youll need to install it from bootiso)
4. on a dedicated machine, (youll need to install it from bootiso)

hope that helps.


Sound good. I might want to run Linux in the VMPlayer from a thumb drive or some Flash media for development but I probably could fit it in my remaining 1.4+ TB of free space of the main hard drive. It doesn't hurt me to use any distribution of Linux but for developmental purpose, at least one setup in Lubuntu would make sense so we are working on the same page with less headache that would result from running different distribution packages.


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