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Re: Cry for help (bounties)
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by qus on 2004/10/8 2:24:48
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It really pi*es me off, when I see unix style command line switches instead of neat ReadArgs style switches


Care to code a shell that will do the job but conforms to your idea of a Amiga Shell? I'm not really all that picky at this point in time, but we need to get this moving along.

Dammy

Posted on: 2004/10/8 13:19
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Re: Cry for help (bounties)
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[...] unix is just crappy bunch of randomly gathered pieces of code without any idea (unlike AmigaOS elegance through simplicity).


That's arguably the most unfounded argument I've ever come across Care to motivate?

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It really pi*es me off, when I see unix style command line switches instead of neat ReadArgs style switches


Both have their pro and their cons.

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And while AmigaOS shells are I/O devices, unix shells are executables. Yuck!


Aside from the fact that I don't clearly see why would one approach be better than the other one, you're quite wrong: the shell is just an executable like any others on AmigaOS, which register itself with the dos.library and gets a special startup message... on startup. The console is a device, but so it's on unix as well.

Posted on: 2004/10/8 11:47
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Re: Cry for help (bounties)
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Well - is there anything good or cool about unix shells? I must confess, when I was still subscribing AROS-dev I kept flaming Fabio for making AROS too unixish. Of course I realise that this is the only way to get gcc and stuff to AROS, but for me (and I administered VMS, OS/400, several unices, Windows) unix is just crappy bunch of randomly gathered pieces of code without any idea (unlike AmigaOS elegance through simplicity). It really pi*es me off, when I see unix style command line switches instead of neat ReadArgs style switches

And while AmigaOS shells are I/O devices, unix shells are executables. Yuck!


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Cry for help (bounties)
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hi,
i will be very impolite, but if someone has money for bounties, please think of add:
- job (task) manager
- signaling

to our libc.

that is what is missing for a working pdksh (so we could have a "complete" native dev enviroment.

i think it worth a bountie (that would, probably allow the conclusion of self-compile bountie)

regards,

ps: AROS will be the only amiga-like system with a native *nix shell (afaik)

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